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Tuesday, April 12, 2005

Oh, The Things I Learn on Baseball-Reference.com
As you know, one of my favorite sports sites is the user-friendly database baseball-reference.com. I sometimes call it up to check a single fact and end up not being able to pull away. Here are some interesting facts I recently gleaned...

Rickey Henderson, while generally regarded as the game's greatest speedster, seemed allergic to triples.

Henderson, who stole 1,406 bases in 25 years, had only 66 career triples, only twice had more than 5 in a season and never had more than 7 in a single year. Slugger Lou Gehrig, the second-greatest home-run hitter of his generation who stole only 102 bases in 17 seasons, posted 163 career triples, including double-digit figures every year from 1925-31.

Current Nationals shortstop Christian Guzman posted triples totals of 20, 14, 6 and 20 with the Twins from 2000-2003, leading the league in three of those four seasons.

Henderson is widely considered an automatic first-ballot Hall of Famer, as he's the majors' all-time leader in runs and stolen bases, while surpassing 3,000 hits and 2,000 walks. But he had only three top-8 finishes in league MVP voting (1981, 1985, 1990). How many first-ballot hitters can you say that about?

He also played for nine different teams, not exactly a guy teams were unwilling to unload.

Let's play a game of Can You Believe This Current Player Has One Top-Five Finish in MVP Voting?

In his fist seven full seasons, he boasts these stats:

- .616 career slugging percentage, the highest active leader and fourth-best of all time
- .339 career batting average, the highest active leader
- .432 career on-base percentage, second among active players and 10th-best of all time
- 1.048 OPS, second among active players and fifth-best of all time
- Has never hit below .315 in a full season
- Three Gold Gloves
- Five straight All-Star Game selections

Coors Field is either the best thing to happen to Todd Helton or the worst. Sick totals for a guy who could walk down the streets of New York unnoticed.

Jeff Bagwell is to All-Star Games what Henderson is to triples.

I was watching the Mets' home opener Monday and Ralph Kiner mentioned how Bagwell is a solid candidate for the Hall of Fame. Well, nothing gets me clicking on Baseball Reference like a HOF debate. And, of course, I find something very interesting...

Bagwell has only four All-Star Game selections in his 14 full seasons. Here's a guy with over 1,500 runs and RBIs through age 36, averaging 116 per 162 games in both categories. A guy with nine seasons of 100+ runs (including 120+ four straight), eight seasons of 100+ RBIs (including five of 120+), seven seasons of 100+ walks and batting averages of .310, .315,. 320 and .368.

Most importantly, perhaps, is that he finished in the top 10 of MVP voting six times. And he makes only four All-Star Games? Wade Boggs, by comparison, finished in the top 10 of MVP voting four times, but was selected to 12 straight All-Star Games.

As for the Yankees...

• Just an abomination to watch right now. Bernie Williams and Jason Giambi are liabilities at the plate and in the field. Tino Martinez looks shot at the plate. Alex Rodriguez is the polar opposite of Derek Jeter in his (in)ability to lead by example, though he did manufacture New York's only run, even if he got lucky with a bad throw from Edgar Renteria.

I'm sick of looking for silver linings. That's eight losses in their last 11 games that counted. Maybe they need another six-man no-hitter thrown against 'em or a 22-0 loss at home. Because both those events turned around the last couple of regular seasons.

Mariano Rivera is the coolest cat around. If there's anyone who doesn't need to be reminded that he's pitched in 23 postseason series with nine earned runs in 108.7 innings, with 32 saves and a 0.75 ERA, with one earned run in seven innings in the 2004 ALCS and one earned run in eight innings in the 2003 ALCS, with three top-three finishes in Cy Young Award voting, it's No. 42 himself.

• As long as Joe Torre is the manager, we will always do the right thing politically. And they did so Monday when the Red Sox received their rings, though I think they did it just to see if Manny Ramirez would wear his on his nose.

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Comments: Oh, The Things I Learn on Baseball-Reference.com

Repeat after me: No World Series was ever won in April.

Yeah, they're all looking pretty craptacular right now, but then the 1992 Yanks won their first 8...and then look what happened. You just can't judge too much this early on.

Besides, If you look at this team as a whole and take out the Yankee fan factor, they still scare the shit out of me. When they're clicking on all cylinders (and I'm of the belief that they will get out of this funk), watch the fuck out, American League. Not that Bernie or Tino will tear up the ball, but even if they're hitting for average and the "above average" (A-Rod, Jetes, Matsui, et. al) guys start doing they're thing, they'll be a pretty damn potent lineup. Now it's just a matter of them all finding their groove at once.

OK, hoping that wasn't too Pollyannaish. Though I'm not just saying this to be cheery. I honestly believe it :)

Posted by kabsy77 at April 12, 2005 7:26 AM

Kabsy77 is absolutely correct about April. Being a Brewers fan, it's all too fresh in my memory that they started 44-38 last year, only to finish with 67 wins. Yes, closed the season 23-56.

Regarding Bagwell and his four all-star games, Robin Yount (another first-ballot HOFer) only made three all-star games in 19 years. And he won two MVPs (1982 and 87).

Posted by Joe DiGiovanni at April 12, 2005 7:40 AM

As for the difference between Lou Gehrig's and Rickey Henderson's triples stats, I would assume that they point largely to Gehrig playing in parks that were about 50 feet deeper (Polo Grounds, etc.)

As for baseball stats, check out the historical distance to the fences on that field - it changed just about every year:

Dimensions: Left Field: 277 (1911), 286.67 (1921), 279.67 (1923), 279 (1930), 280 (1943), 279 (1955); Left Field, second deck: 250; Left center, left of bullpen: 447; Left center, right of bullpen: 455; Front of clubhouse steps: 460; Center field: 433 (1911), 483 (1923), 484.75 (1927), 505 (1930), 430 (1931), 480 (1934), 430 (1938), 505 (1940), 490 (1943), 505 (1944), 448 (1945), 490 (1946), 484 (1947), 505 (1949), 483 (1952), 480 (1953), 483 (1954), 480 (1955), 475 (1962), 483 (1963); Bleacher corners: 425 when center field was 475; Right center, left of bullpen: 449; Right center, right of bullpen: 440; Right field: 256.25 (1921), 257.67 (1923), 257.5 (1931), 257.67 (1942), 259 (1943), 257.67 (1944); Right field, second deck photographers' perch: 249; Backstop: 65 (1942), 70 (1943), 65 (1944), 70 (1946), 74 (1949), 65 (1954), 74 (1955), 65 (1962); Foul territory: very large.

from http://www.ballparks.com/baseball/national/pologr.htm

Posted by Greg at April 12, 2005 8:40 AM

Here's some information on NL 1B's for the All-Star Game (from http://baseball-almanac.com/asgmenu.shtml), starter listed first:

1991: Will Clark, John Kruk, Eddie Murray
1992: Fred McGriff, Clark
1993: Kruk, Andres Galarraga, Mark Grace, Greg Jeffries
1994: Jeffries, Bagwell, McGriff
1995: McGriff, Grace
1996: McGriff, Bagwell
1997: Bagwell, Galarraga, Grace
1998: Mark McGwire, Galarraga
1999: McGwire, Bagwell, Sean Casey
2000: McGwire, Galarraga, Todd Helton
2001: Helton, Casey, Ryan Klesko
2002: Helton, Richie Sexson
2003: Helton, Sexson
2004: Albert Pujols, Helton, Casey

Looks like Bagwell made it during his best years. Do you know of any way to look up first-half splits? That might explain it a bit.

Looks like Galarraga, McGwire, Grace and McGriff kept Bagwell out in his early years. (Perhaps he was penalized for not having a capital "G" in his name?)

And now yer man Helton, Sexson and Pujols will probably keep him out. Especially Pujols.

His HOF rankings (Black Ink, Grey Ink, HOF Standards and HOF Monitor) are above average, but it's not so solid when you remember that he plays 1B.

I thought this would be similar to Bernie Williams (where his HOF rankings look good, but need to be tempered by his position), but instead Bernie has atrociously low Black and Grey Ink batting numbers. His HOF Standard number (46.4) is better, the average HOFer has a 50.

Where Bernie really sticks out is HOF Monitor with a value of 140 (Avg HOFer: 100). As it says in the notes (http://www.baseball-reference.com/about/leader_glossary.shtml#hof_monitor) , "It's rough scale is 100 means a good possibility and 130 is a virtual cinch. It isn't hard and fast, but it does a pretty good job."

Here's hoping it does.

Later.

Posted by aljfkds at April 12, 2005 10:08 AM

A Jeff Bagwell discussion without any comments about his ex wife?????

Posted by Fletch at April 12, 2005 10:27 AM

I'd be less concerned with the Yankees in April if it wasn't the same exact guys looking absolutely horrid. Sheffield's off to a bad start, but I'm not worried. Same with Mussina.

But why should I believe Jason Giambi is even capable of getting two or three hits in a game, ever, for the rest of hs career? This isn't seven games. This is two years since the shift went into effect.

Bernie had a .341 June in 2004, so he's capable. But he also hit .194 and .184 in two separate months. So he's more capable of that. And in centerfield I just pity him now.

And it's fool me once, shame on A-Rod, fool me 12 times, shame on me. Yesterday, he struck out swinging his first at-bat at Fenway, bobbled his first ground ball at Fenway and made a crucial error at Fenway. When those things happening are less surprising then him getting three hits, including a STFU shot into the triangle with runners on ... we've got problems.

This isn't seven games. This is the exact stuff we saw last year.

Posted by Paul Katcher at April 12, 2005 11:22 AM
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