Being a fan of the Eagles requires me to be in a stadium where 75% of the people are John Green types. You know who they are right away...they can't handle their alcohol, they run their mouths and/or loud mouths about everything, they think they are tough...they are nothing but pure white trash that ruin events for the rest of the fans.
What happened that night at the Pistons game was wrong on BOTH sides--are we not adults? This jerk off, Green, trying to make himself out to be the victim is a fucking joke. We are going to find out everything that is jammed into his closet full of skeletons soon enough. I am sure the 3 DUI's are just the beginning. People who behave so irresponsibly and irrationally usually have a long history of it by the time they reach the age of 39.
I just hate people like this who ruin the fun of attending a game/sporting event for everyone else. It is to the point that a football or baseball and now basketball games are unfit for children to attend. Some of my best childhood memories are of when my dad took us to games. If I had kids, I would never take them and expose them to the John Green's of the world...and there are alot of them.
In combat sports like boxing and (real) wrestling, the overwhelming majority of the athletes have great respect for each other. Most of the corporate sports are far different. Vote with your feet, wallet, browser, and credit cards.
There is a fine line between being that funny guy in the stands that throws the occasional barb or quip out and being that guy who is ruining the atmosphere of the sports game. When I was at a KC v. Red Sux game, we were seated next to the Red Sux bullpen. One person seemed to have a quite comedic mouth on him. Throwing out very humorous insults to Mike timlin and others. I was laughing and others were too. The guy eventually stopped when asked to by the near by security guard. It all comes down to respecting the game, people in the game and respecting those around you.
Basically, anyone who threw a punch during this debacle is a problem. I don't think this guy should be allowed to attend another NBA game ever, on top of any criminal action taken against him.
And yet....once, sitting in our season ticket seats at a Blackhawks game, there sat behind us a group of increasingly rowdy 20-something men. There was beer drinking, and there was some (relatively) minor cursing, and the boys and I looked at each other and rolled our eyes. Until about the middle of the 2nd period, when the beer really started to kick in and they started to get obnoxious and the language constantly foul.
I finally turned around and said, 'hey, guys, i got little kiddos here. can you watch the language while you're watching the game? please?'
And they stopped. That's all it took- a gentle reminder that there were others in the arena besides them, and that swearing non-stop isn't okay in public. Sometimes I think that we forget to ask for good behaviour- my experience with the boys and pro sports events is that when I've asked, I've received.
Just another viewpoint......
Great post Paul. I'm glad they were able to identify this guy and I hope he (and all the other holigans, both fans and players) are punished appropriately.
This is way before our time, but I'm sure most of you have seen footage from baseball games back in the 30's and 40's, right? You know, when everyone in the stands looked like they were wearing suits and dresses and generally seemed to have some self respect (I'm sure there exceptions).
How did we go from that to what we have today...fans and players fighting...fights in the bullpen...fans jumping on the field to assault coaches...stabbing people. I know it's only sports, but isn't it at least a little bit of a reflection on our society in general?
Sorry Paul, I should have put that on the forum...my bad.
And how did they identify this jerk-off so quickly? He's the former neighbor of the Detroit District Attorney.
I am glad to see that the young men that were ruining the hockey game for Lucy and her family kindly refrained from their negative behavior when asked. This is not the norm. I don't agree with the fact that we should ASK for good behavior from stranngers. As children we are raised to behave, period, not only when it is asked for.
If I asked for good behavior at an Eagles game, you would be reading about my dismembered body strewn through the Linc. This insane behavior exists all over the stadium regardless of the fact if you have premium seats or nose bleed seats.
Cass, that's really got me to thinking- because I've asked hooligans (and I do agree with you that you shouldn't have to ask!) to pipe down/chill out when I've been with the boys and I've never been disappointed. Maybe it's the mother-with-young-boys persona, maybe it's living in the midwest, maybe it's the box seats?
For goodness' sake, though, if they'd tear you limb to limb- don't do it!!!
The overall quality of the Philadelphia sports fans is pretty much consists of 75% of the John Green types, Lucy. Trust me...it sucks. I have premium seats for the Eagles and the trash is everywhere. Philly fans are infamous for their shitty attitudes and behavior that reflects such.
Now the exception to the rule in Philly is the Flyers. I personally find that attending Flyers games is much more enjoyable, as the fans are more dignified. Therefore, I don't mind paying a shitload for my season tickets, since apparently that keeps the trash out. God, I miss hockey.
The man alleged to have thrown the initial cup of beer/whatever at Ron Artest last Friday has been identified as John Green (pictured). Green hasn't admitted to have thrown the cup, but he made appearances, accompanied by his lawyer, on Good Morning America and Larry King Live on Tuesday. He had a bit to say, certainly more than what I would have said if I was mistakenly accused of inciting a riot. "I didn't do it," would have been it from my mouth.
Being a fan of the Eagles requires me to be in a stadium where 75% of the people are John Green types. You know who they are right away...they can't handle their alcohol, they run their mouths and/or loud mouths about everything, they think they are tough...they are nothing but pure white trash that ruin events for the rest of the fans.
What happened that night at the Pistons game was wrong on BOTH sides--are we not adults? This jerk off, Green, trying to make himself out to be the victim is a fucking joke. We are going to find out everything that is jammed into his closet full of skeletons soon enough. I am sure the 3 DUI's are just the beginning. People who behave so irresponsibly and irrationally usually have a long history of it by the time they reach the age of 39.
I just hate people like this who ruin the fun of attending a game/sporting event for everyone else. It is to the point that a football or baseball and now basketball games are unfit for children to attend. Some of my best childhood memories are of when my dad took us to games. If I had kids, I would never take them and expose them to the John Green's of the world...and there are alot of them.
Posted by Cass P at November 24, 2004 8:58 AM