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Sunday, October 10, 2004

You Say These Aren't the Same Yankees?
I almost felt bad for Twins fans on Saturday. It was almost like Barf Bag Night after Ruben Sierra tied Game 4 with a one-out, three-run homer in the eigth inning. Did you see the looks on those people's faces? It was like their dogs were run over ... in trucks used to kidnap their kids.

I gotta give Twins fans credit, though. They're a respectful, energetic crowd, owed a ton of credit for the 1987 and 1991 World Series (when the Twins went 0-6 on the road and 8-0 at home). Sure, they boo Derek Jeter, the poster boy for the big, bad Yankees. But do they resort to vicious innuendo about a man's sexuality — as if it meant anything whatsoever — just because he enjoys the finer things in life, like World Series rings? Do they spew stupid crap like "Gay-Rod," when the best all-around player in baseball rocks a double and hustles his ass to score the winning run in a series? No, they've experienced a couple of championships. They're not some jealous outsiders who think opponents suck or blow or swallow or whatever the fuck they're prone to think in some parts, just because a team wins.

I also thought, "How many teams have we done this to?" How many packed stadiums have we left in our wake, absolutely demoralizing them on the road? The A's. The Mariners. The Orioles. The Mets. The Braves. The Rangers. The Padres. The Indians. That team that's finished second in the AL East for seven straight years. Jesus, no wonder people hate us so much. Except for the Marlins and Angels, winners of, yes, three World Series titles since 1997. Same as the Yankees. I bet some teams would kill to have just one.

Yankees record in ALDS under Joe Torre: 7-2
Yankees record in ALCS under Joe Torre: 6-0
Yankees record in World Series under Joe Torre: 4-2

That's 17-4 in postseason series over a nine-year period. Incredible. I know the next one will be a heart-attack special — and I'll have more on that Monday — but keep an eye out for a guy just named to the ALCS roster: Babe Ruth.

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Comments: You Say These Aren't the Same Yankees?

The Twins are becoming the new A's...who, themselves, were the new Rangers for a couple years: Perennial ALDS victims of Yankee success.

Posted by Tommy Himself at October 10, 2004 2:34 AM

your endless need to mock the Red Sox just shows how much you fear them (as you should)...

Here's to the next week+ of anxiety provolking baseball... and that we both don't develop anxiety related conditions. ;)

Posted by amy at October 10, 2004 10:31 AM

you'd think it was your team that hasn't won a world series in 86 years the way you continuosly rag on the sox and their fans.

Note From Paul: I didn't mention Red Sox fans. Why, do they use terms like Gay-Rod and Jeter Blows?

The run you've had the past 8 years is one of the best in the history of sports, yet somehow you come off like it's new money...

Note From Paul: I have absolutely no idea what the above sentence means.

Posted by g at October 10, 2004 11:31 AM

Once again, I am right when I don't want to be:

"...If the Twins win, its a miracle. I believe we have the best rotation in the playoffs, but the gaps in the lineup (the middle infield pretty much) leave the offense too impotent to pose a ligitmate threat to anyone of the caliber of the Cardinals or Yankees." -PK.com Oct 1

Posted by The 7th Angel at October 10, 2004 12:15 PM

my point was you talk trash about the sox like they are #1 and you are #2. You've been world champions 26 times, yet you act like this is your first trip to the playoffs.

sox fans that say gay rod and jeter blows are idiots, and yankee stadium has plenty of people that fall into the same category.

Posted by g at October 10, 2004 4:03 PM

How is it that I talk like the Sox, a seond-place team for seven straight years, during which the Yankees have won three World Series and been to two more, are "#1?"

Posted by Paul Katcher at October 10, 2004 4:22 PM

Your team is #1. Has been for a long time. Why spend so much time pissing on the guys down the ladder?

The people who spend their days talking shit about another team aren't usually #1.

Posted by g at October 10, 2004 6:41 PM

You clearly don't hear the things I hear.

New York is a big place. People move here from all over the country. And I hear "This is our year" and "You'd better watch out" all the time. They're the Ray Charles of baseball fandom, and I ain't talking about musical prowess.

After the Sox won that big game at Yankee Stadium a few weeks ago, a Red Sox fan actually asked me if we'd bring Mariano in another tight spot. Another ordered me to "admit" that I was worried during Game 7 last year. (Duh, yes. Does that thrill you?)

It's like a Saints fan trying to get on a 49ers fan, if the Niners were still awesome and you multiplied their Super Bowl titles by five.

Posted by Paul Katcher at October 10, 2004 6:48 PM

People hate the Yankees because they are jealous of your success.

I am a Philadelphia fan, and I haven't had much to cheer about since 1980. 1993 was a lot of fun, until Mitch Williams took the mound.

Paul, what do you think about a salary cap in baseball?

I will say that payroll doesn't equal success. The Mets and Red Sox have proven that you can throw money at the problem but it doesn't get better.

But on the other hand, you must admit, that for a team in a smaller market (lets say the Twins) won't be able to really compete with teams like Boston or the Yankees (on a consistient basis) because their team won't generate the same revenus that a large city like New York will generate for a team like the Yankees or Mets.

Every Yankee fan I meet says they don't want a salary cap, simply because they don't want to see the playing field even (like, for example, in football - New England and Philadelphia have proven you can stay under the salary cap and still field a playoff capable team for many years if managed properly).

Posted by X at October 10, 2004 7:46 PM

Paul, on an unrelated note - I think I may have found your next apartment/headquarters for pk.com. I expect a reasonable finder's fee.

http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/31491.htm

Posted by Cory at October 10, 2004 7:59 PM

I don't know that smaller-market teams really can't bring in revenue. Is Boston that much of a "big market?" It has the same metro size as Detroit and less than Philly. Much less than Oakland-San Fran, which, like New York and L.A, you can halve because of two local teams.

On the surface, a salary cap seems fair in terms of standings. Is it the best thing for baseball? Would the owners make the most money overall? Would more people watch an ALCS between two stacked teams or two merely very good teams? I don't really know.

I don't think it's the worst thing for one of the three-and-a-half major sports to do things a little differently. But, of course, I'm not blind to the argument that a salary cap would breathe some life into some smaller-market teams.

Posted by Paul Katcher at October 10, 2004 8:15 PM

Paul,

Some of my best friend in the whole world are Sox fans. Can you tell me if you've noticed the same things that I have?

1) If you're not a Sox fan, you're uneducated.
2) They think they play for the team...if you rag on the Sox, they take it personally.
3) They complain about the Yankee's spending like they have a 30 million dollar payroll (Not referring to you X...I'm in favor of a cap by the way).

That being said, is there anything better than Yankees v. Red Sox in the ALCS?

Posted by Nick at October 10, 2004 9:59 PM

1 & 2 I haven't noticed any more than any other team. I've found the most out-of-touch — the people that really take things personally — are rabid college football fans. Some of them are plain scary with their infatuation with, in some cases, schools they didn't even attend.

No. 3 I get a kick out of sometime. If Red Sox Nation is the force it's supposed to be, and if the owners want to win as much as Steinbrenner, then there shouldn't be any complaining about payroll. I don't hear too much crabbing about it, though. I think they know how they got Manny and Pedro and Schilling and Damon and Foulke: as free agents or with trades from the A's and Expos who couldn't afford the salaries.

I just get tired of the yapping about how we're gonna do this and we're gonna do that. You can beat 'em in the standings, beat 'em with the A-Rod trade, beat 'em in the playoffs, it's it's just yap-yap-yap.

I think the Sox are a great team. Never wavered from that position this year. But jeez, give it a rest till ya win something already.

Posted by Paul Katcher at October 10, 2004 10:26 PM

I am a big twins fan from MN and thanks for letting us keep our dignity after those fall apart loses we GAVE you. the yanks i confess are just to damn good.

Posted by Rob at October 10, 2004 11:01 PM

You didn't give us Game 2 anymore than we gave you Torii Hunter's homer in the top of the 12th. I guess you can look at it either way, but I give more credit to the winners for winning than the losers for losing.

Posted by Paul Katcher at October 10, 2004 11:11 PM

My biggest concern...come from behind wins are friggin emotionally exhausting. The Yanks have been living on the edge all season. Some times if feels like Russian Roulette. I'm extremely confident we'll win, but I sure wouldn't mind seeing them score 5-6 runs scored in the first two innings for a change.

Posted by Nick at October 10, 2004 11:16 PM

I've been waiting for a string of 8-3 victories for awhile. I think we know not to expect them anymore and the reason we never got 'em was simply because the pitching staff was quite average. And in today's game, quite average means taking your lumps some days against really good lineups.

And yet, the Yanks still won 101 games and scored a 3-1 ALDS win. So you don't take anyone lightly, but you sure as shit don't give up on 'em, not if we can stir the ghosts with four games at Yankee Stadium.

Posted by Paul Katcher at October 10, 2004 11:39 PM
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