OK - a couple of things about Janet Daley of the London Telegraph. For one thing, you uptight British monarchist, wanting to unseat an absolute disaster of a president does not mean one hates one's country. That kind of shit burns me - these republicans and now their limey mouthpieces equating liberal Democrates with America haters. News Flash! Liberal Democrats are NOT far leftist freaks like you see in Berkely. So just STFU about shit you have no idea about, Janet Daley, you bad teeth having, boiled gray meat eating, warm beer drinking Red Coat.
And yeah - London in the 60s sounds like a miserable time, you twat, what with the Beatles, the Stones, the Who, Clapton, Pink Floyd,and Hendrix making a musical revolution in your backyard, with the explosion of fashion on Carnaby Street, the sudden surge in political interest amongst the youth of Europe and America, the dawn of a new literary era and a radical explosion of youth oriented film. Not to mention the drugs and the cheesy discotechques. Yeah - I sure would have had a shitty time in 1960s London too, if I were a repressed bucktoothed screed like Janet Freaking Daley.
Yo Henry....chill.
Go hug a tree or eat some granola or something. I hate when a hippie gets pissed off.
Really, what is the big friggin' deal with Dean's yell? "Polite" society acts so, so offended by this, but not by the millions of American jobs lost under the unelected Bush, the continued carnage in a war the U.S. supposedly "won" in April, the growing number of people without health care, the so-called "Patriot" Act under which any citizen can be branded an "enemy combatant" with no real recourse to appeal, and so on. Now that pisses me off.
Dean the patrician has a streak of redneck in him. He was captain of his high school wrestling team, a photo of which is in the latest Newsweek and online. If he acts like himself and not some artificial zombie assembled by handlers, consultants, and pollsters, he could win.
The mainstream media has attacked him every day relentlessly. By doing so, they defend the lies about "weapons of mass destruction" in Iraq, Saddam's supposed ties to Al-Qaeda, the colonialist doctrine of "pre-emptive strike," etc. These are the issues that matter, and which Dean raises, and which they bury.
I'm not necessarily endorsing or even voting for Dean, because he is, after all, a politician. But I could give a rat's ass about his yell, which was actually one of the most heartfelt things he did.
I concur with Eddie, in that Dean's exuberance was no biggie in the grand scheme of things. It's a perfect, humorous watercooler topic, though, no matter what side you're on.
Why is it so hard to find one man or woman who is knowledgeable and cool? Why does every politican have to be so damn awkward? John Edwards is supposed to be "the good-looking one" and he's got his hair cut over his ears. Can't we get Joe Montana an almanac or something and have him run in November?
Ed - that hippie line was funny. I actually snorted at work and got a few loks. If you took a glance at me and my shinybald head you would probably more think "geek software developer" than hippie.
Eddie - that post was beautiful, man. Dead on accurate.
Paul - Dean's performance on Monday night finally pushed me into the Kerry camp. I totally appreciate Dr. Dean's anger at the Bush administration but I think his role is now apparent: to energize an angry portion of the electorate and to reignite some passion in the current, far more electable frontrunners. I think Kerry has never been better on the stump than he has for the past few weeks. Dean is a good man and by no means the lefty angry freak he has been made out to be. But he is done I think.
You can stick a fork in Dean. I don't mind having a guy like that "fired-up" in front of fellow Americans, but we'd never recover from that type of embarrassment in the eyes of the world community.
Thanks to the current president's mangling of international diplomacy we're already the world's Most Powerful Pariah. Dean may be the only man on Earth that could make Dubya look like FDR at a summit.
As a moderate Democrat, I'm praying for a Kerry-Edwards ticket, with Wesley Clark Sec. of State.
As a Republican, I know I'm outmanned on this message board. But here are my takes as of now.
I like Edwards. He has a charismatic manner and interacts well with people. My big problem with him is that he has the trial lawyers lobby in his pocket. As a law student, it is the one professional group that I really don't care for at this point. He made millions as a personal injury litigator, and therefore he will not be in favor of tort reform. He does look like a good VP candidate though.
Wesley Clark seems like a great option for Republicans if a Democrat is elected. His views have always been conservative and to the right. The fact that he is a Dem now is strange. Therefore, I wouldn't mind him in office as opposed to the others, simply because I have seen how he stands on many issues and I don't think he can do a complete paradigm shift in every arena.
With Kerry, the jury is still out.
Same with Dean. At least he is providing a lot of laughs this week.
Lieberman, Sharpton, Kucinich...no comment.
As a voting fiscal conservative, I love the field the democrats have put out.
Clark's attack on Kerry's rank put him on my shit list.
Class-action lawyers are, in my opinion, thieving leeches that should be tried themselves for treason against the country. So you can guess my feelings for Edwards.
Kerry is probably the most electable of the rest, but lacks the one thing Dean seems to have, which is passion. The one thing the democratic party needs most, and Dean comes across like a nut. Too bad.
And is it just me, or does Edwards look like he's gonna back door it like Clinton did?
As a moderate voting (never missed an election yet, even when I had to vote absentee because I was in the process of moving to another state- that was complicated, and in Florida, too) Democrat, I just have to throw in my two cents worth:
I don't like any of 'em. Since my state isn't in the swing of early primaries, I figure I'll just wait for a while and then pick thru the leftovers- especially as the candidate I wanted, Bob Graham, didn't last but a nanosecond. Sigh.
Could we just have a decent, honest, intelligent, well-spoken, charismatic and motivating fiscally conservative and socially moderate-liberal Democrat candidate? For once?
Sigh.
New campaign slogan: "Hide the caffeine, here comes Dean!"
I thought it was highly comical and hardly harmless. It was good to see a politician be spontaneous and unscripted for once. And I think he's handled the aftermath beautifully.
Dr. David Banner never underwent an emotional metamorphosis quite like Howard Dean did Monday night after he finished a disappointing third in trying to convince Iowans to share his vision on how to run the most powerful country in the world. It wasn't over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor, and it ain't over now for the Dean camp, not according to this post-caucus address:
OK - a couple of things about Janet Daley of the London Telegraph. For one thing, you uptight British monarchist, wanting to unseat an absolute disaster of a president does not mean one hates one's country. That kind of shit burns me - these republicans and now their limey mouthpieces equating liberal Democrates with America haters. News Flash! Liberal Democrats are NOT far leftist freaks like you see in Berkely. So just STFU about shit you have no idea about, Janet Daley, you bad teeth having, boiled gray meat eating, warm beer drinking Red Coat.
And yeah - London in the 60s sounds like a miserable time, you twat, what with the Beatles, the Stones, the Who, Clapton, Pink Floyd,and Hendrix making a musical revolution in your backyard, with the explosion of fashion on Carnaby Street, the sudden surge in political interest amongst the youth of Europe and America, the dawn of a new literary era and a radical explosion of youth oriented film. Not to mention the drugs and the cheesy discotechques. Yeah - I sure would have had a shitty time in 1960s London too, if I were a repressed bucktoothed screed like Janet Freaking Daley.
Posted by henry at January 23, 2004 9:56 AM