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Thursday, March 6, 2003

Torture This Motherfucker Till He Sings
For more than 16 months since Sept. 11, 2001, we have been implored to never forget, as if it were a choice. And over that time, during which I've read countless essays trying to make sense of a world turned upside down — I judge time now not by what grade I was in but whether it was pre- or post-9/11 — I have never forgotten the message in one of the first editorials written after the attacks: "The Case for Rage and Retribution," by TIME's Lance Morrow.

Said Morrow the day after thousands of innocent people were murdered: "Anyone who does not loathe the people who did these things, and the people who cheer them on, is too philosophical for decent company."

And so now we debate the issue of how best to coerce Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, the captured suspected organizer of the Sept. 11 attacks, into delivering information that will help the free world break up murderous terrorist cells. And my suggestion is any fucking way possible.

Does that include torture? If he aids terrorist organizations by withholding information, absolutely. This is not the mailman who got a speeding ticket. This is a monster.

He had his chance to be treated humanely. He gave it up when he turned into an accomplice to murder over and over and over again. Until the bodies piled up into the thousands. The legacy of the pain he administered to families around the world are incalculable.

Time for us to bring the pain now. Not so much for revenge, but for results. To achieve the only goal I ever hoped for after 9/11: to make sure that shit never fucking happens again.

If scratching his eyes out accomplishes that task, let them roll to the wall. If he's executed with a couple less limbs than he had on 9/11, I'm not gonna cry for him. He helped cut up sons and daughters into 20,000 body parts that my neighbors had to clean up and will have nightmares about forever. Send his fucking head to the Pearl family to piss on.

Another quote from Morrow's essay: "The worst times, as we see, separate the civilized of the world from the uncivilized. This is the moment of clarity. Let the civilized toughen up, and let the uncivilized take their chances in the game they started."

Time to pay up, bitch.

Other Khalid Shaikh Mohammed Links:

Father of Murdered Son Calls for Torture — The father of a young man killed in the Bali bombing says, "If he's tough enough to blow things up and kill people, let's see if he can withstand torture. Give him to four or five of the parents (who lost children in Bali). We'll make him talk."

Detention and Interrogation Methods in the War on Terror — Says Rafael Epstein, "After speaking to ten currently serving US national security officials the Washington Post revealed the CIA's interrogation or "stress and duress" techniques. Blindfolded and manacled captives are kept standing or kneeling for hours. They're tied up in awkward, painful positions and they're deprived of sleep, held in tiny rooms for days at a time. Those rooms are flooded with light or painfully loud noise. Some are beaten when they're initially arrested, thrown into the walls while blindfolded."

Terror Suspect to Be Treated Humanely — Sure, why not? What's he done wrong? Of course, "humanely" is arbitrary.

Is it OK to Torture Terrorists? — Rod Liddle of The Guardian chimes in on the issue.

Amnesty International: Sept. 11 Suspect Must Not Be Tortured — They want him tried under international law. I want to stop al-Qaeda from blowing up bodies whenever it damn well feels like it.

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Comments: Torture This Motherfucker Till He Sings

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

Posted by lucy at March 6, 2003 12:39 AM

How about they capture all of his family and friends, and put them in an old high-rise. Then, we can tie him to a chair outside and fly a plane into the building while he's forced to watch.

Posted by Greg at March 6, 2003 8:57 AM

As a student of history in my college days, I am constantly on the search for the period of time when barbarism melded into civility.

Think about the days of the Spanish Inquisition and the thousands of people who met their deaths in the torture chambers of the Tower of London. Recent barbaric regimes like Baby Doc, Idi Amin, Pol Pott, Hitler, Stalin, Karavich and countless others who live/lived in an otherwise "civil" time on the planet.

Torture, then and now, is a part of the human condition whether we like it or not. Now is the time for the United States to use it like it has never been used before and completely vanquish its enemies.

The so-called "human rights" of the terrorists must necessarily yield to the interests of protecting our citizens and those of our allies for to do otherwise hands the terrorists exactly what they want; the validation of their ideals, victory for the jihad over a nation of cowards.

So, let the bamboo shoots under the fingernails begin!!

Posted by JC at March 6, 2003 9:24 AM

This man doesn't care about his family or anyone elses. He has been trained to kill and show no remorse for what he has done. They will torture him, but he won't confess to anything. He will enjoy the torture and in his mind he wil use it as a justification for September 11th. I am more worried about WW III.

Posted by syl at March 6, 2003 10:37 AM

For now, he will be held incommunicado as an "unlawful combatant" and questioned - though U.S. officials reject suggestions that he might be tortured to make him blab.

"We don't sanction torture but there are psychological and other ways that we can get most of what we need," said Senate Intelligence Committee vice chair Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.)

from post on wednesday....they dont let him sleep for a couple of days...hes more valuable alive than dead

Posted by punchy at March 6, 2003 11:26 AM

Do whatever it takes to get him to talk. For those who feel it is unhumane to torture him into talking: If he doesn't talk, our chances and our efforts to prevent a future attack and find the ultimate bastard bin Laden will slip through our fingers. We can not afford to let it happen.

Posted by Sam at March 6, 2003 2:48 PM

Okay, Okay... So torture is bad and we shouldn't do it.

How about we just remove all that body hair; one hair at a time in the name of personal hygiene?

Posted by Captain Canuck at March 6, 2003 10:42 PM

I'm not sure that this will make much sense, but I've been considering a few questions regarding this topic.
Is this a bigger issue today simply because we are more aware of what's going on in the world than we were 50 years ago? Is our vocalization of our fears fueled by the media that makes us aware that we need to be fearful?
I guess what I'm asking is if most of America would "feel" better about the idea of torturing people if we simply didn't know that Americans' were doing it. Do we feel that we have to be against something simply because we are made aware of it?

My opinion doesn't really matter, but prevention of anything remotely like this happening again is the only thing that we should be considering.

Posted by Jaccie at March 6, 2003 11:14 PM

What we should do is put this guy in a cage on a flatbed truck and take him on a tour of a 50 state long gauntlet. Citizens are asked to leave their firearms at home. We need to leave something for the Californians to appease.

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